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	<title>Comments on: Home Fileserver: Mirrored SSD ZFS root boot</title>
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		<title>By: jema</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-17175</link>
		<dc:creator>jema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to thank Simon for all the good info and leave a tip for Colin and others. I&#039;m not based in the UK so I cant vouch for availability but if you are looking for a good controller card the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i, LSI SAS3081E-R and Intel SASUC8I are all the same card. I&#039;m using the Intel card (OEM bonanza as the only part to name Intel is the invoice) as it was cheapest here in Sweden, about £140 shipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to thank Simon for all the good info and leave a tip for Colin and others. I&#8217;m not based in the UK so I cant vouch for availability but if you are looking for a good controller card the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i, LSI SAS3081E-R and Intel SASUC8I are all the same card. I&#8217;m using the Intel card (OEM bonanza as the only part to name Intel is the invoice) as it was cheapest here in Sweden, about £140 shipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-17143</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon, where did you buy your card and controllers from? you&#039;re listing prices in Dollars, but appear to be based in the UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon, where did you buy your card and controllers from? you&#8217;re listing prices in Dollars, but appear to be based in the UK?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-17131</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Simon.

I just built my own ZFS NAS with the OpenSolaris b134 developer&#039;s release.  (I really want to have Dedup! :)  However I am having difficulty getting VNC server to work.  You mentioned that you had set it up and I know how you like to ride the bleeding edge, so I was wondering if you might have some pointers for getting it working on b134.  By default it&#039;s installing xvnc but all the guides I have found have been concerning SUNWxvnc, which is not installed by default.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

-James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Simon.</p>
<p>I just built my own ZFS NAS with the OpenSolaris b134 developer&#8217;s release.  (I really want to have Dedup! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   However I am having difficulty getting VNC server to work.  You mentioned that you had set it up and I know how you like to ride the bleeding edge, so I was wondering if you might have some pointers for getting it working on b134.  By default it&#8217;s installing xvnc but all the guides I have found have been concerning SUNWxvnc, which is not installed by default.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>-James</p>
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		<title>By: Valrhona</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-17117</link>
		<dc:creator>Valrhona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you added the mirror after the ZFS send&#124;receive. Would it have made any difference to the mirror if you had done the transfer before adding the mirror? I think I read somewhere that the files that are mirrored are only those copied onto the drive after the mirror is established, but I might be wrong about that. Thanks for all of the great information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you added the mirror after the ZFS send|receive. Would it have made any difference to the mirror if you had done the transfer before adding the mirror? I think I read somewhere that the files that are mirrored are only those copied onto the drive after the mirror is established, but I might be wrong about that. Thanks for all of the great information!</p>
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		<title>By: Illotus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good post, just setup root pool mirror based on the instructions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good post, just setup root pool mirror based on the instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-17011</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, yes at the time of writing this post, only mirror vdevs were available for creating redundant bootable OpenSolaris systems. I didn&#039;t check recently but I expect this is probably still the case. As you can see above, it only took 2 minutes to resilver the second SSD when the mirror was created, which is pretty quick, although there was only 5.5GB of installed files.

Indeed, when ZFS is requested to read file blocks from redundant storage (mirror, RAID-Z1, RAID-Z2 &amp; RAID-Z3 vdevs), if there is a  block checksum error, ZFS will not only return the correct data, but it will also heal the problem. The read request may be in the form of either a file read or a scrub. As a user will never normally read all files back on a regular basis, this highlights the importance of performing regular scrubs, as this will be only real way that bit rot is detected and fixed.

During the heal process, for mirrors, the correct data is located on other drives within the mirror vdev, and in the case of RAID-Z1, RAID-Z2 &amp; RAID-Z3 vdevs, the correct data is reconstructed using the available parity data.

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, yes at the time of writing this post, only mirror vdevs were available for creating redundant bootable OpenSolaris systems. I didn&#8217;t check recently but I expect this is probably still the case. As you can see above, it only took 2 minutes to resilver the second SSD when the mirror was created, which is pretty quick, although there was only 5.5GB of installed files.</p>
<p>Indeed, when ZFS is requested to read file blocks from redundant storage (mirror, RAID-Z1, RAID-Z2 &#038; RAID-Z3 vdevs), if there is a  block checksum error, ZFS will not only return the correct data, but it will also heal the problem. The read request may be in the form of either a file read or a scrub. As a user will never normally read all files back on a regular basis, this highlights the importance of performing regular scrubs, as this will be only real way that bit rot is detected and fixed.</p>
<p>During the heal process, for mirrors, the correct data is located on other drives within the mirror vdev, and in the case of RAID-Z1, RAID-Z2 &#038; RAID-Z3 vdevs, the correct data is reconstructed using the available parity data.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Paranoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paranoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Simon,

I just realized that ZFS mirrors also self-heal. I was thinking to myself - Why is Simon going with mirrors rather than RAIDZ? Ah, now I know. Which makes it a very good option for booting, rather than RAIDZ, as the speed should be greater.  Maybe this comment will spell it out for other people scratching their heads like I was.

http://blogs.sun.com/timc/entry/demonstrating_zfs_self_healing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Simon,</p>
<p>I just realized that ZFS mirrors also self-heal. I was thinking to myself &#8211; Why is Simon going with mirrors rather than RAIDZ? Ah, now I know. Which makes it a very good option for booting, rather than RAIDZ, as the speed should be greater.  Maybe this comment will spell it out for other people scratching their heads like I was.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.sun.com/timc/entry/demonstrating_zfs_self_healing" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.sun.com/timc/entry/demonstrating_zfs_self_healing</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16918</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the problem with the Mellanox Infiniband HCAs your link shows is the issue of drivers.
E.g. the MHES14-XTC for $125 only lists Windows and Linux driver availability, so no use for me using Mac OS and Solaris.

So it seems likely that the Solaris poster was right when he mentioned that it would be easier using 10GbE to achieve fast speeds, as when 10GbE becomes more mainstream, drivers should be easier to find for mainstream OSes, indeed they will probably be included within the OS itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the problem with the Mellanox Infiniband HCAs your link shows is the issue of drivers.<br />
E.g. the MHES14-XTC for $125 only lists Windows and Linux driver availability, so no use for me using Mac OS and Solaris.</p>
<p>So it seems likely that the Solaris poster was right when he mentioned that it would be easier using 10GbE to achieve fast speeds, as when 10GbE becomes more mainstream, drivers should be easier to find for mainstream OSes, indeed they will probably be included within the OS itself.</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HCA:

http://www.colfaxdirect.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=12

See related items (below) for cable prices.

Thanks for the links, I will check them later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HCA:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.colfaxdirect.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=12" rel="nofollow">http://www.colfaxdirect.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=12</a></p>
<p>See related items (below) for cable prices.</p>
<p>Thanks for the links, I will check them later.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jan,

$300 looks to be a good price! Got any links? I will check it out.

Yes, I was looking at Infiniband a year ago as a possible direct-attach method here for video-editing storage:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=310488

The replier pointed out that:
(1) Although he was an Infiniband enthusiast, he felt that the 10GbE approach would be easier.
(2) 10GbE switches are the most expensive component and I could just eliminate the switch and go 10GbE NIC to 10GbE NIC directly without the need of a switch.

I didn&#039;t go any further yet with the project, but as a year has passed since, I should take a new look at 10GbE NIC prices and compare with Infiniband... hopefully prices have gone down significantly... then again, maybe they haven&#039;t?

Then again, new tech like Fusion-IO has come along -- basically fast Flash on a PCIe-connected card as a much faster way to access local storage than SATA II/III devices etc.
See: http://www.fusionio.com/products/
Here&#039;s a vid about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9Zxnx-r0E&amp;feature=player_embedded
Steve Wozniak is onboard, so it looks like it should be very good :)
It looks like it has fantastic performance for niche storage needs, but it&#039;s a bit pricey for now, and storage size is very limited :(

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jan,</p>
<p>$300 looks to be a good price! Got any links? I will check it out.</p>
<p>Yes, I was looking at Infiniband a year ago as a possible direct-attach method here for video-editing storage:<br />
<a href="http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=310488" rel="nofollow">http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=310488</a></p>
<p>The replier pointed out that:<br />
(1) Although he was an Infiniband enthusiast, he felt that the 10GbE approach would be easier.<br />
(2) 10GbE switches are the most expensive component and I could just eliminate the switch and go 10GbE NIC to 10GbE NIC directly without the need of a switch.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t go any further yet with the project, but as a year has passed since, I should take a new look at 10GbE NIC prices and compare with Infiniband&#8230; hopefully prices have gone down significantly&#8230; then again, maybe they haven&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Then again, new tech like Fusion-IO has come along &#8212; basically fast Flash on a PCIe-connected card as a much faster way to access local storage than SATA II/III devices etc.<br />
See: <a href="http://www.fusionio.com/products/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fusionio.com/products/</a><br />
Here&#8217;s a vid about it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9Zxnx-r0E&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9Zxnx-r0E&#038;feature=player_embedded</a><br />
Steve Wozniak is onboard, so it looks like it should be very good <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It looks like it has fantastic performance for niche storage needs, but it&#8217;s a bit pricey for now, and storage size is very limited <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 GbE is currently way too expensive.

Why not use Infiniband? That&#039;s becoming affordable right now. Just a direct connection between NAS and workstation, will cost you $300 (2 HCAs and a cable).

Very nice blog btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 GbE is currently way too expensive.</p>
<p>Why not use Infiniband? That&#8217;s becoming affordable right now. Just a direct connection between NAS and workstation, will cost you $300 (2 HCAs and a cable).</p>
<p>Very nice blog btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16168</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think someone recommended one of those Dell PERC cards when I was looking at the SuperMicro AOC-MV8-SAT2 with PCI-X vs the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i / LSISAS1068E-R choice. See if you can download the &quot;LSIUTIL&quot; utility from the LSI site and run it as root -- it gives a lot of diagnostic info about connected storage devices including any hardware errors etc -- very useful in pinpointing any pool checksum errors, for example.

For anyone interested, the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i is a great 8-port SATA (or SAS) card under OpenSolaris, but it uses a bracket which you will have to unscrew to use it in a standard tower case -- it&#039;s really designed for use in SuperMicro UIO setups. The other good side is that it&#039;s a good price. It uses the LSISAS106E ASIC. When fitted, there is no secure bracket holding it in place, but it seems to work fine.

The counterpart to the AOC-USAS-L8i card is another 8-port SATA/SAS card -- the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/host_bus_adapters/sas_hbas/lsisas3081er/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LSISAS3081E-R&lt;/a&gt;, which uses a conventional bracket, but costs more.

Now that SSDs are reaching speeds which are fast approaching the SATA II 3Gbps limit -- e.g. my OCZ Vertex Turbo SSD boot drives read at around 240MBytes/sec, we should soon expect to see new releases of these SATA cards based on SATA III chipsets which are able to reach 6Gbps per channel. Then all we need is 10GbE ethernet switches and NICs to become mainstream and the speed of transfer will be phenomenal.

I&#039;ve got a stack here of 20 or so video tapes which I&#039;m editing, and so I get bored of waiting for large transfers of huge video files to transfer to long-term NAS storage across a slow 1GbE link at 50 MBytes/sec or so, so 10GbE will be great when it becomes more affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think someone recommended one of those Dell PERC cards when I was looking at the SuperMicro AOC-MV8-SAT2 with PCI-X vs the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i / LSISAS1068E-R choice. See if you can download the &#8220;LSIUTIL&#8221; utility from the LSI site and run it as root &#8212; it gives a lot of diagnostic info about connected storage devices including any hardware errors etc &#8212; very useful in pinpointing any pool checksum errors, for example.</p>
<p>For anyone interested, the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i is a great 8-port SATA (or SAS) card under OpenSolaris, but it uses a bracket which you will have to unscrew to use it in a standard tower case &#8212; it&#8217;s really designed for use in SuperMicro UIO setups. The other good side is that it&#8217;s a good price. It uses the LSISAS106E ASIC. When fitted, there is no secure bracket holding it in place, but it seems to work fine.</p>
<p>The counterpart to the AOC-USAS-L8i card is another 8-port SATA/SAS card &#8212; the <a href="http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/host_bus_adapters/sas_hbas/lsisas3081er/" rel="nofollow">LSISAS3081E-R</a>, which uses a conventional bracket, but costs more.</p>
<p>Now that SSDs are reaching speeds which are fast approaching the SATA II 3Gbps limit &#8212; e.g. my OCZ Vertex Turbo SSD boot drives read at around 240MBytes/sec, we should soon expect to see new releases of these SATA cards based on SATA III chipsets which are able to reach 6Gbps per channel. Then all we need is 10GbE ethernet switches and NICs to become mainstream and the speed of transfer will be phenomenal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a stack here of 20 or so video tapes which I&#8217;m editing, and so I get bored of waiting for large transfers of huge video files to transfer to long-term NAS storage across a slow 1GbE link at 50 MBytes/sec or so, so 10GbE will be great when it becomes more affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding additionnal SATA ports, I got off Ebay for 49 euro a 
RAID DELL SAS 5/iR SAS/SATA PCI-E controller.
(Beware, there are 4 and 8 ports version).

The breakout cable must have cost me 9 euro extra.

Although the card is HW raid, I am using it under solaris as normal SATA controller.

I am under the impression that those DELL cards are LSI-chips based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding additionnal SATA ports, I got off Ebay for 49 euro a<br />
RAID DELL SAS 5/iR SAS/SATA PCI-E controller.<br />
(Beware, there are 4 and 8 ports version).</p>
<p>The breakout cable must have cost me 9 euro extra.</p>
<p>Although the card is HW raid, I am using it under solaris as normal SATA controller.</p>
<p>I am under the impression that those DELL cards are LSI-chips based.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16077</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I had that idea too. However I wasn&#039;t sure of the cooling problems that might occur, but this turns out to be a non-issue as these SSDs are almost cold to the touch. Also, due to the thinness of the SSDs, turning them over might not give much space advantage, although it&#039;s possible it might be enough to eliminate the pressure due to power cables colliding.

Also, I thought about rotating one of the SSDs through 180 degrees longitudinally, so that power &amp; SATA cables are at opposite ends of the mounting bracket, but dismissed this as I didn&#039;t really want cables in odd positions.

In the end I found a spare molex power connector coming from the PSU, and plugged in another cable with a male molex connector on one end and a SATA power connector on the other end. The wires leading to the SATA connector were routed directly to the end of the connector and were not pass-through (i.e. leading to another connector), and so this gave enough clearance. Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I had that idea too. However I wasn&#8217;t sure of the cooling problems that might occur, but this turns out to be a non-issue as these SSDs are almost cold to the touch. Also, due to the thinness of the SSDs, turning them over might not give much space advantage, although it&#8217;s possible it might be enough to eliminate the pressure due to power cables colliding.</p>
<p>Also, I thought about rotating one of the SSDs through 180 degrees longitudinally, so that power &#038; SATA cables are at opposite ends of the mounting bracket, but dismissed this as I didn&#8217;t really want cables in odd positions.</p>
<p>In the end I found a spare molex power connector coming from the PSU, and plugged in another cable with a male molex connector on one end and a SATA power connector on the other end. The wires leading to the SATA connector were routed directly to the end of the connector and were not pass-through (i.e. leading to another connector), and so this gave enough clearance. Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: ronnylov</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronnylov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the strain on the SATA-connectors - have you tried turning one of the SSD drives up-side-down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the strain on the SATA-connectors &#8211; have you tried turning one of the SSD drives up-side-down?</p>
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		<title>By: ono</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16073</link>
		<dc:creator>ono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid me,i tried resetting BIOS and then it worked....
simple solution, should have thought about it.
Thank you so much anyway!
Best regards
/ono</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid me,i tried resetting BIOS and then it worked&#8230;.<br />
simple solution, should have thought about it.<br />
Thank you so much anyway!<br />
Best regards<br />
/ono</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16070</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Ono!

The LSI LSISAS3081E-R controller you have, and the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i controller I have, both share the same LSISAS1068E ASIC, so should be pretty similar in terms of use with the motherboard&#039;s BIOS and Solaris, I should expect.

Like you, I never had much luck with the JMicron SATA ports.

I presume your graphics card is a PCIe (PCI Express) card? I put my Asus EN6200LE PCIe-based card in the PCIe slot nearest to the CPU, and the SATA controller card in the PCIe slot furthest from the CPU, although I suppose you already tried swapping the cards around? I don&#039;t know if it should make any difference, but you never know.

Also, you could try checking which motherboard BIOS version you are using and also the SATA controller card&#039;s BIOS version.  

As the motherboard&#039;s BIOS can support 6 devices from the SATA ports driven by the NVidia chipset (MCP55) and 2 devices from the single IDE connector, I suppose it&#039;s normal the BIOS only shows 8 devices (excluding the 2 possible JMicron devices).

The HBA card (LSISAS3081E-R / AOC-USAS-L8i) has its own POST messages that display the devices connected to the card, independently of the motherboard&#039;s POST messages.

I don&#039;t know how the motherboard&#039;s BIOS handles external USB / eSATA devices.

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Ono!</p>
<p>The LSI LSISAS3081E-R controller you have, and the SuperMicro AOC-USAS-L8i controller I have, both share the same LSISAS1068E ASIC, so should be pretty similar in terms of use with the motherboard&#8217;s BIOS and Solaris, I should expect.</p>
<p>Like you, I never had much luck with the JMicron SATA ports.</p>
<p>I presume your graphics card is a PCIe (PCI Express) card? I put my Asus EN6200LE PCIe-based card in the PCIe slot nearest to the CPU, and the SATA controller card in the PCIe slot furthest from the CPU, although I suppose you already tried swapping the cards around? I don&#8217;t know if it should make any difference, but you never know.</p>
<p>Also, you could try checking which motherboard BIOS version you are using and also the SATA controller card&#8217;s BIOS version.  </p>
<p>As the motherboard&#8217;s BIOS can support 6 devices from the SATA ports driven by the NVidia chipset (MCP55) and 2 devices from the single IDE connector, I suppose it&#8217;s normal the BIOS only shows 8 devices (excluding the 2 possible JMicron devices).</p>
<p>The HBA card (LSISAS3081E-R / AOC-USAS-L8i) has its own POST messages that display the devices connected to the card, independently of the motherboard&#8217;s POST messages.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how the motherboard&#8217;s BIOS handles external USB / eSATA devices.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: ono</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16067</link>
		<dc:creator>ono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the BIOS only seems to display a maximum of 8 drives in &quot;Harddisk Drives&quot; in Boot Menu.
I try to plug in a USB thumbdrive, OCZ Throttle eSATA SSD (i was trying to install Opensolaris on this but i have not succeeded), 6 SATA storage array, and the current boot IDE drive. 
Somehow i always can see only 8 drives, always the SATA connected to the NVidia controller, but losing
one of the others.....

??????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the BIOS only seems to display a maximum of 8 drives in &#8220;Harddisk Drives&#8221; in Boot Menu.<br />
I try to plug in a USB thumbdrive, OCZ Throttle eSATA SSD (i was trying to install Opensolaris on this but i have not succeeded), 6 SATA storage array, and the current boot IDE drive.<br />
Somehow i always can see only 8 drives, always the SATA connected to the NVidia controller, but losing<br />
one of the others&#8230;..</p>
<p>??????????</p>
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		<title>By: ono</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-16066</link>
		<dc:creator>ono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon!
First of all, i want to thank you for creating an excellent DIY NAS-guide!
It has been a great help for a unix newbie such as myself!
I have following this project with great interest and i also have pretty much the same hardware as you.
I have also run out of SATA ports and got a x4 RAID controller (LSI SAS 3081E-R),
too boot from (since the JMicron is giving me great headaches) and to add another RAIDZ.

Now i have run into another problem, i have tried contacting Asus but have not got a reply.
When i plug in the controller and try to boot, the motherboard (M2N-SLI Deluxe) is giving me
graphics error beep codes (1 long 2 short). No video is displayed and i think POST is not completed.
Motherboard probably thinks the raid controller is another graphics card and panics....

Have i missed anything? Are there BIOS settings i should check???

Best regards
/Ono</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon!<br />
First of all, i want to thank you for creating an excellent DIY NAS-guide!<br />
It has been a great help for a unix newbie such as myself!<br />
I have following this project with great interest and i also have pretty much the same hardware as you.<br />
I have also run out of SATA ports and got a x4 RAID controller (LSI SAS 3081E-R),<br />
too boot from (since the JMicron is giving me great headaches) and to add another RAIDZ.</p>
<p>Now i have run into another problem, i have tried contacting Asus but have not got a reply.<br />
When i plug in the controller and try to boot, the motherboard (M2N-SLI Deluxe) is giving me<br />
graphics error beep codes (1 long 2 short). No video is displayed and i think POST is not completed.<br />
Motherboard probably thinks the raid controller is another graphics card and panics&#8230;.</p>
<p>Have i missed anything? Are there BIOS settings i should check???</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
/Ono</p>
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