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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2760</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bryan,

In fact it's worse now for NexentaStor: they've reduced the limit to 1TB now for the Developer Edition, or instead you can choose the Free Trial Edition with no capacity limits stated but you have a 30 day time-limit. As the scope of this post is for a home fileserver/NAS, NexentaStor is not suitable, as the annual ongoing costs are prohibitive -- it's meant for businesses.

Personally, I had no use for NexentaOS/NexentaCore as all that I needed was already in OpenSolaris, which is also free. Also, the APT features have now been included in OpenSolaris 2008.05, known as IPS (Image Packaging System), which you can use to download and install free security fixes. However, I believe that you have to pay for the ability to have full use of IPS for updating other packages (http://www.sun.com/service/opensolaris/index.jsp), and this appears to be an ongoing $324 payment. Again, as the scope of this post is for a home fileserver/NAS, this is unacceptable. For businesses, that may be another matter.

However, if you're saying that NexentaCore/NexentaOS are free, have no restrictions of any sort, and allow easy updating via APT then it could be interesting.

But I do like the fact that by using the basic vanilla OpenSolaris, I know exactly what I'm using (which version etc), and can fire off questions to the great enthusiasts in Sun's OpenSolaris &lt;a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=80" rel="nofollow"&gt;ZFS&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/" rel="nofollow"&gt;forums&lt;/a&gt;, for example, or general driver questions, and there's fewer external things to depend on. Anyway, for what I've needed here, this approach has worked fine so far.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bryan,</p>
<p>In fact it&#8217;s worse now for NexentaStor: they&#8217;ve reduced the limit to 1TB now for the Developer Edition, or instead you can choose the Free Trial Edition with no capacity limits stated but you have a 30 day time-limit. As the scope of this post is for a home fileserver/NAS, NexentaStor is not suitable, as the annual ongoing costs are prohibitive &#8212; it&#8217;s meant for businesses.</p>
<p>Personally, I had no use for NexentaOS/NexentaCore as all that I needed was already in OpenSolaris, which is also free. Also, the APT features have now been included in OpenSolaris 2008.05, known as IPS (Image Packaging System), which you can use to download and install free security fixes. However, I believe that you have to pay for the ability to have full use of IPS for updating other packages (http://www.sun.com/service/opensolaris/index.jsp), and this appears to be an ongoing $324 payment. Again, as the scope of this post is for a home fileserver/NAS, this is unacceptable. For businesses, that may be another matter.</p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;re saying that NexentaCore/NexentaOS are free, have no restrictions of any sort, and allow easy updating via APT then it could be interesting.</p>
<p>But I do like the fact that by using the basic vanilla OpenSolaris, I know exactly what I&#8217;m using (which version etc), and can fire off questions to the great enthusiasts in Sun&#8217;s OpenSolaris <a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=80" rel="nofollow">ZFS</a> <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/" rel="nofollow">forums</a>, for example, or general driver questions, and there&#8217;s fewer external things to depend on. Anyway, for what I&#8217;ve needed here, this approach has worked fine so far.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2757</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;I believe Nexenta may be what you are looking for, but be aware that you only get a free version capable of running a 2TB array, last time I looked. &#60;

Actually, you should be aware that the 2TB limitation is only on NexentaStor.  NexentaOS and NexentaCore have no limitation on the size of any pool - they are completely open source, built on Debian and OpenSolaris.  Get them from nexenta.org.  The administration and reporting tools they've added to NexentaStor are closed source, and that's where the 2TB limitation comes.  If you already use just the command line and scripts, there would be no penalty to using NexentaOS or NexentaCore.  (NexentaOS is the desktop version, NexentaCore the basic server version.)  It's supposed to run on lower-spec and a broader range of hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I believe Nexenta may be what you are looking for, but be aware that you only get a free version capable of running a 2TB array, last time I looked. &lt;</p>
<p>Actually, you should be aware that the 2TB limitation is only on NexentaStor.  NexentaOS and NexentaCore have no limitation on the size of any pool - they are completely open source, built on Debian and OpenSolaris.  Get them from nexenta.org.  The administration and reporting tools they&#8217;ve added to NexentaStor are closed source, and that&#8217;s where the 2TB limitation comes.  If you already use just the command line and scripts, there would be no penalty to using NexentaOS or NexentaCore.  (NexentaOS is the desktop version, NexentaCore the basic server version.)  It&#8217;s supposed to run on lower-spec and a broader range of hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

Fantastic news. If you could send me some summary blog text, I will use it to create a new post, and will link to your article from there to give the full details that you have written.

Thanks a lot.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Fantastic news. If you could send me some summary blog text, I will use it to create a new post, and will link to your article from there to give the full details that you have written.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon. As we spoke about a while ago, I have written a small guide to integrating your Solaris ZFS/CIFS fileserver with Active Directory for centralised permissions. I would be happy for you to link it somewhere in your guide in case others are interested in this combination.

It is the first document on my new wiki, you can see it at http://www.genestate.com/OpenSolaris:ActiveDirectory_Integration

I would be happy to recieve any feedback people have on the guide and I will be expanding it as soon as I have some free time. It's not really a unique guide, but it is a compilation of all the things I have found while working it out for myself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon. As we spoke about a while ago, I have written a small guide to integrating your Solaris ZFS/CIFS fileserver with Active Directory for centralised permissions. I would be happy for you to link it somewhere in your guide in case others are interested in this combination.</p>
<p>It is the first document on my new wiki, you can see it at <a href="http://www.genestate.com/OpenSolaris:ActiveDirectory_Integration" rel="nofollow">http://www.genestate.com/OpenSolaris:ActiveDirectory_Integration</a></p>
<p>I would be happy to recieve any feedback people have on the guide and I will be expanding it as soon as I have some free time. It&#8217;s not really a unique guide, but it is a compilation of all the things I have found while working it out for myself <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2121</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brian. Not sure about the web interface. Honestly, ZFS is so easy to setup with the command line, that I didn't consider the web interface necessary. Good luck with your new system!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brian. Not sure about the web interface. Honestly, ZFS is so easy to setup with the command line, that I didn&#8217;t consider the web interface necessary. Good luck with your new system!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been reading this and it's one of the reasons i've chosen to build a computer from scratch and use opensolaris for its ZFS capabilities as my file/backup server.  Does anyone know if the web utility for configuring ZFS is working or not?  I saw it in a write-up about opensolaris developer express edition, but i think now that 2008.05 is out, it is not available. Are there any good books out pertaining to ZFS or opensolaris?

thanks,

brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading this and it&#8217;s one of the reasons i&#8217;ve chosen to build a computer from scratch and use opensolaris for its ZFS capabilities as my file/backup server.  Does anyone know if the web utility for configuring ZFS is working or not?  I saw it in a write-up about opensolaris developer express edition, but i think now that 2008.05 is out, it is not available. Are there any good books out pertaining to ZFS or opensolaris?</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>brian</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2045</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bug is gone. :-)
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996

Let's try snv_94! ;-)

Regards,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bug is gone. <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try snv_94! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris, I hope the bug has gone this time -- let's hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris, I hope the bug has gone this time &#8212; let&#8217;s hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>snv_94 was released today! Hopefully the bug is fixed! ;-)
I will install snv_94 on my filer, too.

Best regards,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snv_94 was released today! Hopefully the bug is fixed! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I will install snv_94 on my filer, too.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, thanks a lot for the warning about snv_93 -- I will not try it :)

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, thanks a lot for the warning about snv_93 &#8212; I will not try it <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2014</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

if you use CIFS as a service don't update to snv_93!
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996

I haven't tested CIFS that much, but it seems to be a big problem.
So if you not already updated to snv_93, wait for snv_94! ;-)

Regards,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>if you use CIFS as a service don&#8217;t update to snv_93!<br />
<a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65996</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tested CIFS that much, but it seems to be a big problem.<br />
So if you not already updated to snv_93, wait for snv_94! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel,

Although zfs pool creation using slices is possible to do, it appears that it's not regarded as a best practice, from what I have seen. The best practice seems to be to use complete drives. See: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pools

There it says:

Set up one storage pool using whole disks per system, if possible.
For production systems, consider using whole disks for storage pools rather than slices for the following reasons: 

 * The recovery process of replacing a failed disk is more complex when disks contain both ZFS and UFS file systems on slices. 
 * In general, maintaining slices increases administration time and cost. Lower your administration costs by simplifying your storage pool configuration model.

A pool created with multiple slices across disks is harder to manage than a pool created with whole disks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel,</p>
<p>Although zfs pool creation using slices is possible to do, it appears that it&#8217;s not regarded as a best practice, from what I have seen. The best practice seems to be to use complete drives. See: <a href="http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pools" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pools</a></p>
<p>There it says:</p>
<p>Set up one storage pool using whole disks per system, if possible.<br />
For production systems, consider using whole disks for storage pools rather than slices for the following reasons: </p>
<p> * The recovery process of replacing a failed disk is more complex when disks contain both ZFS and UFS file systems on slices.<br />
 * In general, maintaining slices increases administration time and cost. Lower your administration costs by simplifying your storage pool configuration model.</p>
<p>A pool created with multiple slices across disks is harder to manage than a pool created with whole disks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Simpson</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon on June 26th, 2008 at 18:40 wrote:

&#62; Hi JV,
&#62; the short answer is it depends what kind of pool configuration you want. If you want 
&#62; to create a simple RAIDZ1 configuration then it’s best to have the same size drives, 
&#62; probably the same make and model too — i.e. I create a pool comprised of a single 
&#62; RAIDZ1 vdev that uses three 750 GB drives.

True.

&#62; Or, if you had four drives, say two 500 GB drives and two 750 GB drives then you could 
&#62; create a pool composed of two mirrors, one mirror using the two 500 GB drives, and the 
&#62; other mirror composed of two 750 GB drives.

Using OpenSolaris / Solaris / SXCE / etc. you could partition the drives into 250GB chunks
and then RAID-Z2 / Mirror the pieces back together. If you do it correctly then the different
chunks on different drives / controllers will each protect one and other.

Depending on your configuration you can add the 500GB drives to the 750GB drives and then
mirror / raid them and end up with 1250GB of drive space with twice the speed (IOPS) or
take the total of (2 * (500GB + 750GB)) 2500GB and use a RAID-Z2 9+2 to get a huge MTTDL
and a lot of drive space.

Lots of ways to slice it :) . Partitioning improves defrag times, it is not evil.

Joel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon on June 26th, 2008 at 18:40 wrote:</p>
<p>&gt; Hi JV,<br />
&gt; the short answer is it depends what kind of pool configuration you want. If you want<br />
&gt; to create a simple RAIDZ1 configuration then it’s best to have the same size drives,<br />
&gt; probably the same make and model too — i.e. I create a pool comprised of a single<br />
&gt; RAIDZ1 vdev that uses three 750 GB drives.</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>&gt; Or, if you had four drives, say two 500 GB drives and two 750 GB drives then you could<br />
&gt; create a pool composed of two mirrors, one mirror using the two 500 GB drives, and the<br />
&gt; other mirror composed of two 750 GB drives.</p>
<p>Using OpenSolaris / Solaris / SXCE / etc. you could partition the drives into 250GB chunks<br />
and then RAID-Z2 / Mirror the pieces back together. If you do it correctly then the different<br />
chunks on different drives / controllers will each protect one and other.</p>
<p>Depending on your configuration you can add the 500GB drives to the 750GB drives and then<br />
mirror / raid them and end up with 1250GB of drive space with twice the speed (IOPS) or<br />
take the total of (2 * (500GB + 750GB)) 2500GB and use a RAID-Z2 9+2 to get a huge MTTDL<br />
and a lot of drive space.</p>
<p>Lots of ways to slice it <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Partitioning improves defrag times, it is not evil.</p>
<p>Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris. Likewise, I don't use the ZFS web admin interface -- I just use the command line and scripts. I will be expanding the array this weekend, and if I get time after that, I might install snv_93. Have a great weekend too!

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris. Likewise, I don&#8217;t use the ZFS web admin interface &#8212; I just use the command line and scripts. I will be expanding the array this weekend, and if I get time after that, I might install snv_93. Have a great weekend too!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1969</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Simon. Looking forward to hear from you. 
A note on snv_93: I barely use it, but the ZFS web administration interface seems to be broken (again!). But ZFS boot in the installer is very nice! ;-)

Have a nice weekend!

Take care,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Simon. Looking forward to hear from you.<br />
A note on snv_93: I barely use it, but the ZFS web administration interface seems to be broken (again!). But ZFS boot in the installer is very nice! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1817</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, that's very strange, but I can bellieve it. I had the same thing happening when I was trying to reproduce the bug, and then the bug would reappear. This is not the kind of bug that you want to have in a system that is meant to be virtually bullet-proof. When I get some time I will reinstall with the latest Nevada install (b93 currently) and give it another try. I don't think it is fixed in snv_91 as I seem to recall that I reproduced the bug with that version, and then went back to snv_87, but found the bug also in snv_87. I will let you know what I discover in the coming weeks after I upgrade.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, that&#8217;s very strange, but I can bellieve it. I had the same thing happening when I was trying to reproduce the bug, and then the bug would reappear. This is not the kind of bug that you want to have in a system that is meant to be virtually bullet-proof. When I get some time I will reinstall with the latest Nevada install (b93 currently) and give it another try. I don&#8217;t think it is fixed in snv_91 as I seem to recall that I reproduced the bug with that version, and then went back to snv_87, but found the bug also in snv_87. I will let you know what I discover in the coming weeks after I upgrade.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, I'm using a full, standard OpenSolaris install -- Nevada, build 87 currently. I believe Nexenta may be what you are looking for, but be aware that you only get a free version capable of running a 2TB array, last time I looked. If you will ever need to store more than 2TB then you will be paying to use this software. That's one of the main reasons I chose to use the standard version of OpenSolaris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, I&#8217;m using a full, standard OpenSolaris install &#8212; Nevada, build 87 currently. I believe Nexenta may be what you are looking for, but be aware that you only get a free version capable of running a 2TB array, last time I looked. If you will ever need to store more than 2TB then you will be paying to use this software. That&#8217;s one of the main reasons I chose to use the standard version of OpenSolaris.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

it's so weird. Since a few days the bug does not appear anymore. We tried to reproduce the bug for the bugreport, but it just works. 5GB files. 16GB files. No problem at all. But I'm distrustful. Bugs like this one don't disappear like nothing! ;-)

Would be great if you gib snv_91 a try and maybe report your experience with the release. Maybe it's fixed already.


Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>it&#8217;s so weird. Since a few days the bug does not appear anymore. We tried to reproduce the bug for the bugreport, but it just works. 5GB files. 16GB files. No problem at all. But I&#8217;m distrustful. Bugs like this one don&#8217;t disappear like nothing! <img src='http://breden.org.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Would be great if you gib snv_91 a try and maybe report your experience with the release. Maybe it&#8217;s fixed already.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is are you using a full solaris install or something that only includes the ZFS, NFS and CFIS functionality maybe some iSCSI?  It seems like all the home file servers are using the bloat approach, I'm curious if anyone has gotten it down in the 128MB ~ 64MB range for a true appliance style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is are you using a full solaris install or something that only includes the ZFS, NFS and CFIS functionality maybe some iSCSI?  It seems like all the home file servers are using the bloat approach, I&#8217;m curious if anyone has gotten it down in the 128MB ~ 64MB range for a true appliance style.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news Chris! I look forward to seeing where it hangs.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news Chris! I look forward to seeing where it hangs.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1596</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1596</guid>
		<description>I openend a bug. http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2366
I already got a hint how to debug this behaviour. I hope to get it done later today.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I openend a bug. <a href="http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2366" rel="nofollow">http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2366</a><br />
I already got a hint how to debug this behaviour. I hope to get it done later today.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, thanks a lot for your feedback regarding this bug. That's a real pity that they haven't fixed it yet. I have been too busy to learn how to use DTrace to debug this problem as the code in the nv_sata() driver is called by the 'cp' command for this bug.

If you have the time and the knowledge to look at the possibility to run DTrace to see if anything can be discovered about this bug, see the last post from 'bhorn' here: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59201#233503 

Otherwise, I will try to debug it, but it won't be very soon, as I have a whole load of stuff to keep me busy right now. Keep in touch!

Cheers,
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, thanks a lot for your feedback regarding this bug. That&#8217;s a real pity that they haven&#8217;t fixed it yet. I have been too busy to learn how to use DTrace to debug this problem as the code in the nv_sata() driver is called by the &#8216;cp&#8217; command for this bug.</p>
<p>If you have the time and the knowledge to look at the possibility to run DTrace to see if anything can be discovered about this bug, see the last post from &#8216;bhorn&#8217; here: <a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59201#233503" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59201#233503</a> </p>
<p>Otherwise, I will try to debug it, but it won&#8217;t be very soon, as I have a whole load of stuff to keep me busy right now. Keep in touch!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

I made an upgrade on my OpenSolaris 2008.05 machine. The kernel is now snv_91 and the problem is still not solved. Too bad!

Best Regards,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>I made an upgrade on my OpenSolaris 2008.05 machine. The kernel is now snv_91 and the problem is still not solved. Too bad!</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Al ! Believe me, probably like yourself, I spent a lot of time hunting down the best storage solution, and ZFS is it. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Al ! Believe me, probably like yourself, I spent a lot of time hunting down the best storage solution, and ZFS is it. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great write up.I appreciate it.I've been planning a new NAS set up and this really looks good.

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write up.I appreciate it.I&#8217;ve been planning a new NAS set up and this really looks good.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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